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I'm here to search for stuff. Almost everyone is. I know what I'm looking for. I don't want to know what other people are looking for.
Please give me an option to disable the trending feed on the front page, I fail to see how that was ever a necessary addition to the website in the first place.
Thanks in advance.
Go here, scroll down to Custom CSS, paste this in the box, then click save.
.search-trend-list {display: none}How is a little list of tags on the front page such an issue to multiple people
Sorry for off-topic, but I can't help but wonder: is putting trending on the front page just a self-fulfilling loop where something starts trending, it appears on the front page, people click it because it's on the front page, causing it to trend more, and then it just stays on trending because people are just clicking on whatever's on the front page?
Back on topic: I don't think the trending section is hurting anyone (at the same time, I'm not sure who cares that food or whatever is trending though...), but being able to remove it wouldn't hurt either. ...or what BraixenArchivist said: just use Custom CSS.
crocogator said:
Sorry for off-topic, but I can't help but wonder: is putting trending on the front page just a self-fulfilling loop where something starts trending, it appears on the front page, people click it because it's on the front page, causing it to trend more, and then it just stays on trending because people are just clicking on whatever's on the front page?
It shouldn't.
The "trending" tags are not just the most popular searches, as you can see here: https://e621.net/search_trends
It's running the data through a formula, comparing what people are searching for now, compared to 12 hours ago. If the search volume for a tag remains consistently high, like it does with female, it's not going to be trending.
I have a couple variables that I can adjust on my end too, to see what works best.
cinder said:
It shouldn't.
The "trending" tags are not just the most popular searches, as you can see here: https://e621.net/search_trendsIt's running the data through a formula, comparing what people are searching for now, compared to 12 hours ago. If the search volume for a tag remains consistently high, like it does with female, it's not going to be trending.
I have a couple variable that I can adjust too on my end, to see what works best.
Ahh, cool!
donovan_dmc said:
How is a little list of tags on the front page such an issue to multiple people
Some possibilities:
Personally I skip the front page, but I can understand why people may not like it.
A toggle is nice for stuff like this. It lets people think they have a choice.
those of us who stare at the homepage and do nothing else hate this change. it was already information overload with the unnecessary 'post count' and 'e6 avatar'... now it's like some crazy matrix shit. i can't even find the search bar (which I never use btw)
Yeah, they are very dumb. I highly doubt anybody is even searching for those tags, let alone them being trending.
Got it sorted- I posted about it earlier but the post was hidden ;P
It would be nice if it was just a quick "Show Trending" in the settings- it doesn't hurt anybody to have it on but for those of us who don't want to see it... Yeah... Oh well~ All sorted for me anyway
aobird said:
Yeah, they are very dumb. I highly doubt anybody is even searching for those tags, let alone them being trending.
Probably incorrect. Like, we have the numbers.
Nobody has ever been as incorrect as you.
braixenarchivist said:
Go here, scroll down to Custom CSS, paste this in the box, then click save..search-trend-list {display: none}
This does not work sadly.
themimic said:
This does not work sadly.
did you make sure to click save?
donovan_dmc said:
How is a little list of tags on the front page such an issue to multiple people
it makes the page more scrollable
obscure post count and their extras
people don't like the word "trend"
Edit: elaborating on the trend part, i also don't like because of the idea of showing what's "trending", it's algorithmic which i can guarantee a lot of people are not fond of it, specially with ones that has to deal with said feature daily and lives off with it, it's a bit tiring and i'm almost sure the trending tags would give a certain increase of posts in related to the top ones, being artists wanting to rush the content to get more favs and upvotes with the possibility of getting more recognition and for uploaders because number goes up and lights up the funny happy chemicals
people will certainly use it for something for whatever their reason is the one i stated above or because, "i'm lazy let's see this trending tag that links to a character instead of hitting the hot/popular"
but it's annoying and would be appreciative option to disable it honestly
Updated
dba_afish said:
did you make sure to click save?
Yes.
If the artists are inspired to draw what's trending, more power to them. A drawing that day is better than that artist spending the day on YouTube shorts.
cinder said:
It shouldn't.
The "trending" tags are not just the most popular searches, as you can see here: https://e621.net/search_trendsIt's running the data through a formula, comparing what people are searching for now, compared to 12 hours ago. If the search volume for a tag remains consistently high, like it does with female, it's not going to be trending.
I have a couple variables that I can adjust on my end too, to see what works best.
I don't know what that formula is but 7 of the 10 are {thing}_focus, which instantly makes me suspicious that there's something that's not going exactly right with the tags. Are you sure that whatever is being calculated for the supposed trends is correct?
gd82 said:
I don't know what that formula is but 7 of the 10 are {thing}_focus, which instantly makes me suspicious that there's something that's not going exactly right with the tags. Are you sure that whatever is being calculated for the supposed trends is correct?
everything seems fine, they do seem to accurately track tags gaining traction over a certain time frame. the weights might still need some value tweaks if the tags shown are constantly "boring", but the stuff seems to be behaving as expected.
donovan_dmc said:
How is a little list of tags on the front page such an issue to multiple people
If something is unneccesary to someone, chances are theyd rather not see it than have to see it. Most people dont need a list of trending tags at the search bar, thus having it added pollutes their screen. Doesnt matter how "little" it might be, if its unneeded to someone it would look likely better without. I am one of those people, all I need is the news tab and the search bar when I get on the front page, everything else gets in the way so luckily it can be fixed with css
Perhaps add a Show Trending button and hide by default. Otherwise maybe make daily search trends page more easily accessible. I only figured out it existed after someone posted it in the forums.
absolutebanger said:
Perhaps add a Show Trending button and hide by default. Otherwise maybe make daily search trends page more easily accessible. I only figured out it existed after someone posted it in the forums.
The point of putting it on the front page is for visibility, putting it behind a setting (which I'd bet most have never looked at) ensures it will get used at most by a few dozen people, not to mention it makes it unusable by anonymous users unless it's made a theme setting, which then also doesn't carry across browsers
donovan_dmc said:
How is a little list of tags on the front page such an issue to multiple people
Less about it being an issue and more about it just being... so pointless? At least for me. When I'm coming to any sort of booru site it's less to just browse around and more to search for specific thing I'm interested in looking at in the moment, whether it be art of a specific character or series, or from a particular artist, or my own favorites, etc. I'm sure there are people that DO like just browsing the "Popular" or "Hot" tab but I feel a lot don't, and shoving similar content in a space that isn't a side-tab is just lame.
Having an eye catching section labeled "Trending" right on the front page is just added bloat. Not to mention how it'll most definitely not list that useful information given how granular this site's tagging system is. Like right now almost all of the trending tags are some varient of *_focus. Like... what does seeing that people are searching for content of their preferred gender/character type really add for me as a user?
That said...
donovan_dmc said:
...putting it behind a setting (which I'd bet most have never looked at) ensures it will get used at most by a few dozen people, not to mention it makes it unusable by anonymous users unless it's made a theme setting, which then also doesn't carry across browsers
The easy solution here is to make it toggled On by default and then can be toggled Off (or heck, just having a simple "Hide/Minimize" button on the trending section would do). Sure, that'd make it so it isn't tracked on your account, but I'm sure having to take a couple of extra clicks when I'm logging into somewhere new is leagues better than having to add some code hidden in a forum thread to the Advanced section of my settings. I mean I already customize my Mascot everytime I log in somewhere new, this would be no different.
themimic said:
This does not work sadly.
Works for me, even with my Custom CSS already having some stuff in there. Not sure what's up on your end.
aobird said:
Yeah, they are very dumb. I highly doubt anybody is even searching for those tags, let alone them being trending.
Oftentimes, I'll go through the trending tags to see if a particular character or concept is being drawn a lot. For example, it helped me learn about the time pretty much everyone posted pictures of Diane from Bad Guys at the same time.
To address the points Grizzly made:
grizzly_yote said:
- It's change.
This has been around for long enough that I hardly consider it's "change".
- It might be distracting, especially for people with ADHD and ASD.
This is the first time I've heard someone say this. While I myself have Autism and ADHD, it really doesn't bother me. To each their own, but it's not really fair to assume that both groups inherently have issues with it.
- It pushes the site news further down and out of sight.
This one is inherently false. The trending tags is on the left, and whenever there's news, it's at the top of the page, above the tags and images.
A toggle is nice for stuff like this. It lets people think they have a choice.
I do think a toggle would be nice (a la a "minimalist mode") but I digress.
Current top trending: code, Linux, JavaScript
Furries have always been a tech crowd, I guess...
bird-tm said:
To address the points Grizzly made:This is the first time I've heard someone say this. While I myself have Autism and ADHD, it really doesn't bother me. To each their own, but it's not really fair to assume that both groups inherently have issues with it.
I'm not assuming. Every case is different. Others with ADHD and Autism do struggle with it. That's a fact.
This one is inherently false. The trending tags is on the left, and whenever there's news, it's at the top of the page, above the tags and images.
Not on my screen.
I'm not sure why you chose to refute my reply and no one else's, but I stand by what I said.
crocogator said:
Current top trending: code, Linux, JavaScriptFurries have always been a tech crowd, I guess...
Good code turns me on, its that simple.
mentalgame said:
Good code turns me on, its that simple.
I dunno, a lot of people seem to like some pretty nasty stuff given JavaScript is up there.
mklxiv said:
I dunno, a lot of people seem to like some pretty nasty stuff given JavaScript is up there.
Javascript can be beautiful (as long as you use typescript and a linter)
absolutebanger said:
If the artists are inspired to draw what's trending, more power to them. A drawing that day is better than that artist spending the day on YouTube shorts.
Some artists should spend more time on yt shorts and less tine uploading to e6
donovan_dmc said:
How is a little list of tags on the front page such an issue to multiple people
1. It's change and i hate that
2. It's a completely pointless feature, the site ran fine without it
3. It doesn't even appear to work correctly
4. I have level 2 autism and executive dysfunction disorder and it's visual clutter where it's not needed
The fact that so many people have issues with it should support that it was completely unnecessary in the first place.
Who made the decision to put it there? Because I want to do whatever the opposite of buying them a beer is.
sogal35 said:
The fact that so many people have issues with it should support that it was completely unnecessary in the first place.
It's a pity that people who liked this feature are silently using it and not writing good reviews about it. because of this, it seems that a large number of users do not like the new feature
sogal35 said:
Who made the decision to put it there?
That's me.
Please, direct hatemail to [email protected].
sogal35 said:
1. It's change and i hate that2. It's a completely pointless feature, the site ran fine without it
3. It doesn't even appear to work correctly
4. I have level 2 autism and executive dysfunction disorder and it's visual clutter where it's not needed
1st point is your strongest argument by far, the others are kinda lacking
Surely this feature has no potential for abuse and self-promotion
cinder said:
That's me.
Please, direct hatemail to [email protected].
I'm not going to send hate mail cuz it's not worth that, wasn't even considering it. But at this point you owe me a beer for having to deal with it lmao.
I'm on mobile now and it seems to be gone, so I'll take that as a win. It was present the last time I visited the site.
notevilfox said:
It's a pity that people who liked this feature are silently using it and not writing good reviews about it. because of this, it seems that a large number of users do not like the new feature
Probably not likable enough of a feature to praise.
It is literally a feature. It doesn't improve the site in any way. It's just there.
I fully support a toggle so I can turn it off, and the six people who actually like it can enjoy whatever it is they get from it.
iseekstowin said:
Surely this feature has no potential for abuse and self-promotion
If the forums had voting I would give you an upvote for this
iseekstowin said:
Surely this feature has no potential for abuse and self-promotion
If said abuser has serveral thousand usable ip addresses and programming knowledge, sure
People actually use the first page and don't just bookmark the posts tab?
iseekstowin said:
Surely this feature has no potential for abuse and self-promotion
I don't think this would be terribly effective.
A few AI-assisted artists have shown up in the trends after their deletion but the tags just as quickly went away. Somebody probably saw (artist goes here) was completely deleted and then talked about it to others, and then strangers started looking it up because there was a trending tag with 0 posts.
The listing is also dependent on a change in trends. 5,000 searches of a specific artist tag every day would stop working very quickly, it's the reason that tags like male/male aren't permastuck at the top.
pocket_erector said:
People actually use the first page and don't just bookmark the posts tab?
I do but I also tend to click the logo to quickly get back to a search page so I do occasionally see the front page.
I legit thought it was an early april fools joke because nothing in the list looked like anything remotely related to what you'd expect to see trending on a nsfw furry site.