Topic: TWYS "young"; proportions vs in-image confirmation

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I know if a character "looks" young, the TWYS rule states the young tag must be used, and if lore exists about the character being older than it looks, the adult_(lore) tag can be used; but if the image itself shows a confirmation that the character is an adult, is the young tag still needed?
I mean, "tag what you see", and if you "see" a confirmation of age inside the image itself, does that override the proportions or not?

Of course, not trying to bypass the rule or find loopholes, just wanna make sure what counts for what we can see in the image

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jm-luxro said:
I know if a character "looks" young, the TWYS rule states the young tag must be used, and if lore exists about the character being older than it looks, the adult_(lore) tag can be used; but if the image itself shows a confirmation that the character is an adult, is the young tag still needed?
I mean, "tag what you see", and if you "see" a confirmation of age inside the image itself, does that override the proportions or not?

I'd tag stated_age young and adult_(lore)

seeing a "confirmation" in an image doesn't override visuals, the characters could be lying, it could be a joke, the artist could be covering their ass, etc

Depends on what exactly "the image itself shows a confirmation" entails. young is tagged based on how a character looks, text is irrelevant to TWYS (mostly), but there are a number of ways "the image itself shows a confirmation" can be interpreted that I can't really give a solid answer to the question.

usetheblacklist said:
I'd tag stated_age young and adult_(lore)

crocogator said:
This. But specifically you can use stated_adult, which implies stated_age.

Alright then. I feel like those are tags that are used less often in the search, but I guess the adult_(lore) would be enough backup in case those aren't searched for.

donovan_dmc said:
seeing a "confirmation" in an image doesn't override visuals, the characters could be lying, it could be a joke, the artist could be covering their ass, etc

I guess that's fair.
Thanks everyone for the answers

watsit said:
Depends on what exactly "the image itself shows a confirmation" entails. young is tagged based on how a character looks, text is irrelevant to TWYS (mostly), but there are a number of ways "the image itself shows a confirmation" can be interpreted that I can't really give a solid answer to the question.

I'm my case, the image has text stating the ages of the characters, since the point of the imagine is the dynamic that the smaller one is the older, so the text shows their ages to get the point across. And well, that shows that the smaller is an adult despite the smaller height

jm-luxro said:
I'm my case, the image has text stating the ages of the characters, since the point of the imagine is the dynamic that the smaller one is the older, so the text shows their ages to get the point across. And well, that shows that the smaller is an adult despite the smaller height

Small =/= young necessarily. We're actually having a debate about that right now over at topic #62211.

In broader cases, the other responses are correct. The TWYS rules explicitly state that when text and visuals conflict, visuals take priority.