Topic: about content that were purged from e621 coincidentally after news broke about their artist's real-life actions

Posted under General

[examples: tayferret, dangerdoberman, draco_(artist)]

were the deletions due to the artist's illegal actions, or did they really request deletion of their content from this site? because there are still some art from other disgraced artist's [examples: shadman, major_cloog] left over on this site after their actions.

Ruppari

Privileged

I checked and the deletion reasons state that the art was taken down because the artists requested the art to be taken down. I doubt the staff would be lying about it.

Edit: For future reference if you want to know why an artist's all art was wiped, you can look it up by adding status:any in the search for the artist's tag, and then reading the deletion reasons. This is all public information, and not secret behind the scene information that you need to theorize about.

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Donovan DMC

Former Staff

Considering we literally have art from hitler, the site knows well how to separate the art from the artist
An artist is only forcefully removed if they are a danger to the site or the staff

An artist's real-life actions or behaviour has little to no weight on how we handle their artworks, i.e., they are treated indifferently and the same as with anybody else's.
For example, we still have artworks from Adolf Hitler even though he did real-life atrocities.

If something gets purged, it is most likely due to takedowns from the artist themselves, violations to the site rules, or very rarely, under the discretion of site management (such as content involving illegal activities or recent real-life tragedies).

When shit hits the fan in this manner, the artists tend to nuke everything to run and hide. It's an "Oh shit" moment for them.

mklxiv said:
When shit hits the fan in this manner, the artists tend to nuke everything to run and hide. It's an "Oh shit" moment for them.

I wonder if people start to hate artworks too as soon as drama occurs. Personally I don't care if the artist has bad reputation or not.

fluffysoup said:
I wonder if people start to hate artworks too as soon as drama occurs. Personally I don't care if the artist has bad reputation or not.

They do, it's very common sentiment actually. I've seen it happen a few times.

Donovan DMC

Former Staff

fluffysoup said:
I wonder if people start to hate artworks too as soon as drama occurs. Personally I don't care if the artist has bad reputation or not.

A large portion of people have no ability to separate an artist from their art

fluffysoup said:
I wonder if people start to hate artworks too as soon as drama occurs. Personally I don't care if the artist has bad reputation or not.

Yes, I have seen this happen multiple times before. The most common place for shit to land is the comments section, which in very serious cases would get locked by an admin.

donovan_dmc said:
A large portion of people have no ability to separate an artist from their art

I experienced it in a different way. People seemingly always assume gore artists are serial killers or at least mentally ill for some reason.

thegreatwolfgang said:
Yes, I have seen this happen multiple times before. The most common place for shit to land is the comments section, which in very serious cases would get locked by an admin.

I've never seen it heated up to that extent. I understand why they want to file a takedown at that point.

On the completely different note, I wish I could know about the removal before it actually gets removed. I always notice after everything is gone.
I regretted not downloading posts after the recent mass takedowns by certain artists. (At least one of my favourite is now back.)

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Take this with a grain of salt, but I remember hearing about at least one artist this happened to claiming that they did not request removal from e6. I'm not gonna do more digging or ask the artists to see if that is true, but if anyone does, please post about it here.
Tayferret and Dangerdoberman are still making art, so it's not just about nuking everything. Tayferret isn't even DNP, so his newer art should be able to be uploaded.

iseekstowin said:
Take this with a grain of salt, but I remember hearing about at least one artist this happened to claiming that they did not request removal from e6. I'm not gonna do more digging or ask the artists to see if that is true, but if anyone does, please post about it here.
Tayferret and Dangerdoberman are still making art, so it's not just about nuking everything. Tayferret isn't even DNP, so his newer art should be able to be uploaded.

IIRC that has happened I think once, and I don't remember who it happened to.

Donovan DMC

Former Staff

iseekstowin said:
Take this with a grain of salt, but I remember hearing about at least one artist this happened to claiming that they did not request removal from e6. I'm not gonna do more digging or ask the artists to see if that is true, but if anyone does, please post about it here.
Tayferret and Dangerdoberman are still making art, so it's not just about nuking everything. Tayferret isn't even DNP, so his newer art should be able to be uploaded.

donovan_dmc said:
An artist is only forcefully removed if they are a danger to the site or the staff

When people attack the site and threaten the staff, we don't just take that lying down

donovan_dmc said:
When people attack the site and threaten the staff, we don't just take that lying down

But there would be a problem if the takedown reason given was "artist requested removal" when it's not true.
And what kind of danger would lead to an artist's art being forcefully blacklisted? Are there any examples of this happening, if you don't mind?

iseekstowin said:
But there would be a problem if the takedown reason given was "artist requested removal" when it's not true.
And what kind of danger would lead to an artist's art being forcefully blacklisted? Are there any examples of this happening, if you don't mind?

I'm guessing the site just doesn't have a canned removal reason for situations like this because they're (hopefully) so rare.

iseekstowin said:
But there would be a problem if the takedown reason given was "artist requested removal" when it's not true.
And what kind of danger would lead to an artist's art being forcefully blacklisted? Are there any examples of this happening, if you don't mind?

That's the default reason of takedowns, and putting an actual reason there would just cause more unwanted drama in the comments
If you actually look at the takedowns, they usually say "Created by NMNY" or something similar

For the same reasons I am also not going to list off any examples, all of the ones I know of were very messy separations and don't need to be brought up again

Artworks have been removed under discretion of site management without it actually breaking any rules.
Apart from obvious reasons mentioned earlier, it could also be due to the artist's attitude towards the site (e.g., exceptionally hostile/disrespectful) or due to external factors unrelated to the site or the artwork itself (e.g., averi_(fiddleafox)).

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thegreatwolfgang said:
or due to external factors unrelated to the site or the artwork itself (e.g., averi_(fiddleafox)).

e621: "Art featuring Averi is considered Avoid Posting, due to the character's adoption as a racist symbol by trolls."

Also e621: *748 results*

Instructions unclear.

errorist said:
e621: "Art featuring Averi is considered Avoid Posting, due to the character's adoption as a racist symbol by trolls."

Also e621: *748 results*

Instructions unclear.

averi was not purged, it was made cDNP to stop the influx of random troll art out of desuarchive